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Suggestion: Increasing compensation for firing players

Postby a-darius » 2015-4-3 10:17

Presently firing compensation is equal to player’s one week salary, if player’s contract is 1 season length. Usually players are fired in the end of the week, so compensation is almost none (player is fired for the salary of that week). Though small firing compensation helps clubs in case of bankruptcy but it also has negative influence:
1. Increases temptation to fire one or few players before play-offs (and only save money for the rest of the season).
2. Increases temptation to offer bigger salaries in limited players’ market. Sometimes users offer big salaries for players knowing that the player will be traded or fired in the end of the week.

We suggest to make firing compensation not lower than two player’s weekly salaries. If game’s members approve this suggestion, it will be included into the game from the beginning of the next season.
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Re: Suggestion: Increasing compensation for firing players

Postby il_vas » 2015-4-3 13:37

I see that current rules are creating unfair situations, mainly "shortened teams" during the second part of the season, when they have no more objectives. And this is not good.

But cut players is also a a way to manage roster and finances ("unwanted players must be cut", is written in rules if I remember well).

What I see is addition of rules that are limiting flexibility: we had the 3 weeks of mandatory keeping of traded players, now we think about increasing compensation for firing players.

I'm not against it overall, simply I fear that it would increase the trades done only to lower salaries (with higher workload for checking reported trades, etc.).

Maybe a progressive increase of compensation through the weeks of the season, from one to 5 would improve current situation. It could be, i.e.

week 1 and 2: compensation equal to 1 week of salary
week 3 and 4: compensation equal to 2 weeks of salary
week 5: compensation equal to 2,5 weeks of salary

or something like this
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Re: Suggestion: Increasing compensation for firing players

Postby Optimistas » 2015-4-3 19:13

Possible to set some percentage? For example 30-35% remaining part of the contract?
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Re: Suggestion: Increasing compensation for firing players

Postby zio bra » 2015-4-3 23:34

i not think that changes are needed, but if is for not let users make playoffs period without roster and save money,
you can think to penalize who fire players in last week before playoff with bigger amount for fire the players.
in general fire players can be a strategy but double salary for last week before playoff sound good to me
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Re: Suggestion: Increasing compensation for firing players

Postby justbbzhu » 2015-4-4 11:26

There is another problem maybe related to the firing.
Sometimes an user pay a very high salary in the limited market with only one year, in order to punish another user he do not like.
It only cost one week salary, very little money. I think it is unreasonable....
If the compensation is done, the cost is even smaller....
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Re: Suggestion: Increasing compensation for firing players

Postby Malakay » 2015-4-4 15:59

Saving money in this game is very hard (except WL1). I think that is not a good way to increase firing fee's. Players have too higher salary, and we can't find enough good PF/C when we want to go to higher league. :evil:
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Re: Suggestion: Increasing compensation for firing players

Postby Optimistas » 2015-4-4 19:52

Malakay wrote:Saving money in this game is very hard (except WL1). I think that is not a good way to increase firing fee's. Players have too higher salary, and we can't find enough good PF/C when we want to go to higher league. :evil:

Then you need play in lower league.

Firing fee's should be at least double as are now, but the best three weeks salary. Vegetation at the end of the season is one of the reason enormous prices for the players, because they save a lot of money.
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Re: Suggestion: Increasing compensation for firing players

Postby a-darius » 2015-4-4 20:14

Thank you for the suggestions. I have a bit different suggestion:
Minimum compensation for firing would be calculated:
weekly salary + salary proportionate to days spent in the team.
In this case compensation would be smaller if player is fired on the 1st day of the week (for example, if unnecessary player was purchased in limited market and fired immediately) and bigger if player played almost all the week in the team.
Examples:
Let’s say that player’s salary is 7000 Eu and 1 season’s contract.
If player is fired on Monday, compensation is: 7000 + 7000/7 = 8000 Eu
If player is fired on Saturday, compensation is: 7000 + 7000/7*6 = 13000 Eu

Presently it is most useful to fire players on Saturdays. After the update:
1. It will be same useful to fire player on any day of a week. Simply, club will have to pay compensation + salary for days spend in the team (during the current week).
2. Too big salaries will be rarer offered in the market because when firing club will have to pay compensation + salary for days actually in the team (now when player is fired in the end of a week, only salary is paid).
3. Firing players just before play-offs will cost a bit more. So, the strategy to have strong team only during the regular season will be less beneficial.
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Re: Suggestion: Increasing compensation for firing players

Postby Optimistas » 2015-4-4 20:37

a-darius wrote:Thank you for the suggestions. I have a bit different suggestion:
Minimum compensation for firing would be calculated:
weekly salary + salary proportionate to days spent in the team.
In this case compensation would be smaller if player is fired on the 1st day of the week (for example, if unnecessary player was purchased in limited market and fired immediately) and bigger if player played almost all the week in the team.
Examples:
Let’s say that player’s salary is 7000 Eu and 1 season’s contract.
If player is fired on Monday, compensation is: 7000 + 7000/7 = 8000 Eu
If player is fired on Saturday, compensation is: 7000 + 7000/7*6 = 13000 Eu

Presently it is most useful to fire players on Saturdays. After the update:
1. It will be same useful to fire player on any day of a week. Simply, club will have to pay compensation + salary for days spend in the team (during the current week).
2. Too big salaries will be rarer offered in the market because when firing club will have to pay compensation + salary for days actually in the team (now when player is fired in the end of a week, only salary is paid).
3. Firing players just before play-offs will cost a bit more. So, the strategy to have strong team only during the regular season will be less beneficial.

Good suggestion.
I do not expect someone to accept this, but I would be even better:

Let’s say that player’s salary is 7000 Eu and 1 season’s contract.
If player is fired on Monday, compensation is: 2*7000 + 7000/7 = 15000 Eu
If player is fired on Saturday, compensation is: 2*7000 + 7000/7*6 = 20000 Eu
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Re: Suggestion: Increasing compensation for firing players

Postby gedunex » 2015-4-5 01:43

so,basically you are trying to create plan how to punish all users just because some of them trying to save some money? :lol: nice :lol:

if you want some changes,try to keep this system and insert some few new ideas.

if you want to eliminate one bad thing,don't create two bad things just to eliminate one bad thing.
you need to be more creative.
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